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Post  Perry on Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:17 pm

I don't wanna cause any shit storm between me and Aven, so I'm gonna leave. Good bye

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Post  Marcell on Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:33 pm

i'd post a vid called 'this is what samp does to ppl' but there isn't a one. so bye, perry
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Post  Perry on Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:36 pm

what does SAMP have to do with it? reason I left is that I cannot be in same group with such two faced ppl like avenger

http://saracens.top-board.com/t296p465-general-chat

one of us has to go, and that probably wont be him, so cya

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Post  EAF.Klaus on Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:41 pm

Perry wrote:one of us has to go, and that probably wont be him, so cya
Read what I posted on that topic please. No offence but you seem to be acting quite daft here, by leaving over practically nothing but some petty quarrel. NO ONE has to leave here,we're EAF and we're a f**king team. We can sort out our differences properly, and not like kids in a schoolyard.
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Post  ferrari32 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:25 pm

I haven't seen anything like this in eaf since dexter, and I don't like to see perry childish, as I know he's sure as hell not.
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Post  Perry on Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:12 pm

You are comparing me to dexter? What do you know about dexter anyway?

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Post  Morphine on Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:58 pm

None of us like to fight but this is not a reason to leave, Perry. I know I'm not the one to talk about reasons in this case but this just shows your little weakness in fearing to solve fights in any other way but just walking away. Come on dude, you're not a f**king girl. You've done the same in IT, done it recently with Corleone and I understand they both don't/did not have the best of people in them but why are you doing it with EAF now? If you don't feel comfortable in the gang you should report to your leader first, if he can't do anything about it - that's when you pack your bags and leave. I'm sure that Klaus has all the power on earth to solve any conflict that might arise between his own members though.

Ave and I have argued quite a fair number of times in the past but it usually slips by and we all stay friends in the end.
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Post  ferrari32 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:05 am

Perry wrote:You are comparing me to dexter? What do you know about dexter anyway?
I haven't compared you to dexter, I compared the situation to the one with dexter. No need to get nervous.
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Post  Perry on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:25 pm

Morphine. This isn't just about this. I've felt uncomfortable in EAF even before. I don't feel comfortable anymore at all now. Why can't you ppl just understand that. And yes Morphine, you're not the one to talk. You left without giving a single reason. I really wanted you to stay
Maybe you guys can't understand my reasons, but at least I have them. Please, let's just get over with this. I have left. lock the topic or w/e

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Post  Morphine on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:03 pm

You're showing yourself to be weak right now, Perry. Why is it that you run away immediately when there's something endangering your morality? You have to know how to fight back if people have shit against you which pisses you off rather than let them piss you off. I'm not saying you should shoot Ave in the head or something but come on you're not 11 years old, I've seen through your level of English and the way you solve things in general how smart and strong of a person you can be. I don't want this to be the end of your EAF career. I don't care if this post doesn't count as something just because I'm not a member of EAF anymore but I have been a part of the family already and I've known you even before you joined EAF.
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Post  EAF.Klaus on Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:17 pm

Perry wrote:I've felt uncomfortable in EAF even before. I don't feel comfortable anymore at all now. Why can't you ppl just understand that.
Your missing the point here Perry. We understand, but we're your friends and as friends we don't want you to leave. Instead we're trying to HELP you and SOLVE whatever the f**k is wrong. If you felt uncomfortable in EAF, then why didn't you come to me and talk about it? Morph is totally right with his statement, that running away from problems is just weak.
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Post  Perry on Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:36 pm

I don't like being a person who's a snitch or moaner. I just didn't wanna complain about anything inside EAF because I didn't wanna ruin any relationship with anyone, as I thought all of you as good friends of mine. I guess not everyone here has mutual feelings. Being in a group where half of people doesn't want me there is rather odd and uncomfortable to me. Even if we discuss it, people will still think the same.

If EAF is really about friendship, why not support me, Avenger or anyone else out there, instead of implying how I get banned so many times. You could've investigated the thing more and you would've noticed that I was banned for something that even you do in the game. Maybe something is "wrong" with you too, huh? I was talking about other server. Legend changed, just like everyone who went to SAMP. For example Stormeus. They're not the old people they were. Marcell was just kicked, and I got banned.

Avenger, you're a bit selfish here. If you were in my position being constantly called a DMer or abuser by admins, or being banned many times like me (not so many, only 3 times), I would've stood up for you and defend you. So much from friendship. There, you have the reason I left. I'm starting to think EAF isn't about friendship at all.

For example, there were some discussions with Salmonella few months ago. Bass mentioned you and spiral. He said he doesn't understand how you two became admins at all and then started talking shit about you. What have I done? I stood up for you. What do I get in return? "Pery noob dmer flamer rager ban by legned besst admen, ban pery from eaf". To me, it feels like I was stabbed in back by someone who I trusted and respected.

It's funny how when you need help, you get it, but when I need it, where is it? I proved my point.

EAF motto is something like "One for all, all for one" considering by how Klaus describes what EAF is about. Basically, I feel I don't get any support from most of people. Fine, you don't have to give me any support, but at least don't be against me, as I was never against you.

This is what I would've said if we had a discussion about it. All of it. Nothing more to say.


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Post  Perry on Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:41 pm

Also, only thing that kept me in Argonath was EAF, but the way you treat me is not friendly at all, it's like I am an enemy of yours. Seems you to me you don't actually care about EAF Avenger. It's like you care more about your status on Argonath. I DON'T give a damn about Argonath. Everywhere EAF goes, I go there too, but not anymore, I guess.

Even if Aragorn or Gandalf would've called EAF idiots or retards or w/e, I would told them they can both go f**k themselves. Servers are replacable. Good friends aren't and you've just lost one.

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Post  Morphine on Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:59 pm

Being in a group where half of people doesn't want me there is rather odd and uncomfortable to me. Even if we discuss it, people will still think the same.

Thin air. You have nothing to hold your argument's back.

That's first. Second, who gives a rat's ass about that 14 year old faggot Salmonella? He calls me a kid when I'm a year older than him physically and when my mentality is 20 years above his. We all get bitched on by the same idiots and we've all felt what it's like being the best of the best in a community where 95% of the people are dickheads. I'm not referring to anyone in particular. Stormeus is still as great as he ever was, he just changed priorities. People tend to change views at times but do any of us give up? No. Should you? No.

Besides Perry, why do you need someone to stand up for you? You're smart enough to shove a finger in the ass of a moaner or two yourself.


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Post  Perry on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:01 pm

Not to stand up for me, I can do it myself, but not to say shit against me as I was always there for everyone.

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Post  Morphine on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:03 pm

How would you describe 'shit' being said against you? See - that's where the weakness pokes in again. You should have told Avenger what exactly happened that day, regardless of any cynical comments he may have already had written against you. That way - things would've been easier than what they are like now.
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Post  Perry on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:06 pm

Why would I explain my self to him?

He doesn't care about explanations, if he did care, he would ask nicely why was I banned, instead of instantly implying I should be kicked. I will not explain myself to anyone who acts such way.

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Post  EAF.Klaus on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:58 am

Perry wrote:I don't like being a person who's a snitch or moaner. I just didn't wanna complain about anything inside EAF because I didn't wanna ruin any relationship with anyone, as I thought all of you as good friends of mine. I guess not everyone here has mutual feelings. Being in a group where half of people doesn't want me there is rather odd and uncomfortable to me. Even if we discuss it, people will still think the same.
Its understandable how you feel, but I wouldn't call it complaining. Instead, its just bringing the issue to my attention. Since when does half the clan want you to leave? The only person who seems to have a real problem with you is Avenger. Instead of addressing the issues properly, he instead holds a grudge against you for one particular reason or other.I reckon you guys can solve your differences between each other by talking it out like we're doing now. Thats why I didn't want you to leave so quickly.
Perry wrote:If EAF is really about friendship, why not support me, Avenger or anyone else out there, instead of implying how I get banned so many times. You could've investigated the thing more and you would've noticed that I was banned for something that even you do in the game.
You've not really been banned many times, the only time I can recall is when the owners went on a ban spree based on some screenshots. I made it f**king clear that I was behind every one of you who was banned at that point. I'm always supporting all of you. I was trying to investigate the ban that is why I brought up the discussion in the first place.
Perry wrote:It's funny how when you need help, you get it, but when I need it, where is it? I proved my point.
I'm trying to help you right now, you, Avenger, and the clan as a whole. As the leader of this clan, I want to try and help fix the problem between you guys so no one has to leave. I hope Avenger will reply to your comments here so we can get to the bottom of this.
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Post  Fuzzy168 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:25 am

Don't leave EAF. You are a great member.
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Post  ferrari32 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:19 am

Perry, don't do this. You've joined eaf, and you fit in there like you were there for 2 years already. Salmonella, he's just a kid that wants to act like an adult, and he fails at it. My 4-year old cousin is more mature than him. You're smarter and brighter than him, so you shouldn't let the things he says get to you. Also about Stormeus. Yes, he changed a bit, but it's not drastic, you could just say he grew up a bit more, set his school and education as an priority (which is admirable). I don't know why you're fighting with Ave, but I'm 100% sure it's a solvable problem. Both of you are mature enough to talk openly, and I think that's exactly what you gotta do, talk to each other in private.
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Post  Perry on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:39 pm

Klaus wrote:made it f**king clear that I was behind every one of you who was banned at that point.

Even when you made it clear, Avenger still said I should've been kicked along with Marcell. Huh?

And if Avenger wanted to discuss anything, he would've commented. He haven't made a single comment about this whole thing. It's obvious that he's just keeping his mouth shut so I could leave. Don't say I'm the only one who doesn't wanna discuss.

Also, I've said everything that I would've said in a discussion. All that is left is for Avenger to say what bothers him so much about me while I haven't done anything bad to him.

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Post  EAF.Klaus on Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:50 pm

Perry wrote:All that is left is for Avenger to say what bothers him so much
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Post  Perry on Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:52 pm

He was online so many times and didn't even bother to write anything.

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Post  Tony on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:15 pm

meh...
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Post  Avenger on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:58 pm

Eyyyy... Hold on a second.
First of all, you're trying to portray me as some kind of twit that puts his nose into everything. It's not like that.
I'm likely not to wave my fingers towards anynone without a reason. I just criticized you for receiving next banishment - is it that big, so you had to start this f**king theatre? Maybe you have expected to get a jar of cookies because of it?

Being a virtual family doesn't mean we're just gonna sit and lick each other's asses.

About me wishing to kick you out even before - yes, and it wasn't a secret. Other members agreed as well.
In fact, I didn't change my mind about it. But either you leave or stay, I won't cry.
I just expressed my opinion, which is not abnormal, I guess.

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